Sunday, July 30, 2006

Our Very Own Poncho Lady*

Sure enough, Terrence Berres catches another big one:

Kathy Sullivan Vandenberg, 64, a member of St. Mary Parish in Waukesha, is one of eight Roman Catholic women who expect to be ordained as priests Monday in an unofficial ceremony the Vatican considers invalid.

Unhhh...the Vatican does not "consider" it to be invalid. It IS invalid, period. No consideration is necessary, and none is given.

Two of them - who claim that they were later ordained bishops by unnamed male Roman Catholic bishops - will preside Monday with a third woman "bishop."

And wouldn't we all like to know who those heresiarch-Bishops are?

I have met with Archbishop Dolan. He invited me to come in. We had a very cordial meeting last September. I'm not excommunicated. I'm a full member of the Roman Catholic Church at this time. He was very gracious and we talked about the situation.

Q: And after Monday?

A: We didn't talk about that. (An archdiocesan spokeswoman told the Journal Sentinel on Friday that Vandenberg has had a "time of discernment" and that her case will be forwarded to the Vatican if she goes through with Monday's ordination and does not recant.)

In the Church, that's called latae sententiae excommunication. Doesn't require a Bishop's signature, or anything.

Being an expert in ecclesiastical Latin, I will translate latae sententiae for you:


Actually, her "ordination" as a "deacon" may have already served as her very own Poncho-Lady latae sententiae excommunication. It's surprising that she hasn't mentioned it to the interviewer, eh?

Q: You say you have a master's of divinity degree from St. Francis Seminary,

Shocked. I say, SHOCKED!! That Seminary closed for a reason, and Ms. Vandenberg is IT!!

I've felt called for about 30 years. I believe that discrimination against women is wrong and has to stop. I've decided not to leave the church because I feel it is important that good people stay so that we can change the church from within.

I think "without" is the operative term. This poor Poncho-Lady (tm) seems to think that the "theology" of LBJ and the ACLU are applicable to Divine Order. Wrong.

Q: Will you hold home liturgies?

A: Yes. I've been involved in small prayer groups, and that will continue. One group in Milwaukee, 15 to 20 women, has asked me to be their pastor. I also plan on going to church at St. Mary's, because that's my parish.

That will present a little problem for the Pastor at StMary's/Waukesha, no?

However, our Very Own Poncho-Lady did NOT state that she 'had respect for' her pastor, Fr. Volkert--that is reserved for Abp. Dolan.

Of course, "respect" doesn't mean obedience, or anything major like that, eh?

*"PonchoLady" tm reserved to Christus Vincit

DomBett also has a few pertinent remarks.


Brian Michael Page said...

LMAO! Notice her age. Proof of Gerald's remark on his blog (post titled "Ship of Fools") - something to the extent of "if they ordain a woman under 40, wake me up". still LMAO!

Brother James said...

It reminds me of the "Dead Parrot" sketch of Monty Python, where one party is in denial about the obvious non-living behaviour of the parrot in question.

Humility and obedience are two thoughts farthest from the minds of these deluded women. For people claiming to be 'faithful catholics' they sure do show a woeful ignorance of Church doctrine on these matters, and the other heresies that they inevitably proclaim as well.

Gerald Augustinus said...

When I wrote "under 40", I was being EXTREMELY generous

Brian Michael Page said...

About the age of the Pittsburgh lady (Joan Houk - 66, and a cradle Catholic), my remark was "Sixty-six years of Catholicism down the twah-lette".

Fidei Defensor said...

The angel Lucifer tried to reform Heaven from within now that I think of it...