Tuesday, August 30, 2011

CERN: "All Your Formulae Are Wrong, AlGore!"

Just to put a finer point on the CERN study which noticed that the sun has an impact on global warming (gasp!!), here's a bit more of their text:

“[I]t is clear that the treatment of aerosol formation in climate models will need to be substantially revised, since all models assume that nucleation is caused by these vapours [sulphuric acid and ammonia] and water alone.

--quoted at AOSHQ


jimspice said...

It's so odd that all the conservative blogs are using that same abridged quote. Are you all citing the same Koch daily talking points or something?

What you miss is the sentence that IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWS the one you quote: "It is now urgent to identify the additional nucleating vapours, and whether their sources are mainly natural or from human activities."

So if anything, the paper asks more questions than it answers, and opens up the possibility of GREATER human influence on climate.

By the way, The Way Things Break has a very readable breakdown of the Nature article, with links to the harder science for those that want a deeper look: http://thingsbreak.wordpress.com/2011/08/25/concern-trolling-on-clouds-and-climate-change/

Dad29 said...

Hey, I have no problem with identifying "other" causes of GW.

But, ya know, to have ignored sunshine is kinda......stupid.

jimspice said...

"...to have ignored sunshine is kinda......stupid. "

Yes, it would be. But it hasn't been ignored. You need to read a little bit from the other side once in a while, rather than relying exclusively on the echo chamber. The link I provided is a great start.