President Barack Obama’s most prominent Catholic supporter is backing away from the radically pro-abortion leader over his administration’s decision to force religious institutions to cover contraception, including abortifacients, and sterilizations.
Doug Kmiec, Obama’s former Ambassador to Malta, revealed this week that he is now “without a candidate” for the 2012 election because of the contraception mandate.
Proving the maxim that common sense ain't all that common, Douggie.
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Which is why I agree with Mark Shea on this post.
......The question for conservative Catholics is, “Are you willing to accept the help of Catholics who voted for Obama last time in defeating this draconian act of tyranny or are you so bent on settling scores that you would rather drive such people back into the arms of people like Pelosi and Patrick Whelan of Catholic Democrats, who will tell them they are being good Catholics by settling for this tyranny?”.......
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/markshea/2012/02/obama-may-be-losing-the-catholic-left.html
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I noticed that DePaul University is one of several major Catholic universities that provide contraceptives to students and employees.
Funny how everyone seems to care except the Catholics.
Here's an interesting take on it in view of the fact that 98% of Catholic women use or have used contraception from Gail Collins:
The problem here is that [the bishops are] trying to get the government to do their work for them. They’ve lost the war at home, and they’re now demanding help from the outside.
The issue isn't whether or not Catholic women use birth control. Nobody is saying they can't.
This is about the government telling religious institutions what tenants of their faith they are allowed...
It's not a matter of faith or religious tenets. If it were, the Church would be excommunicating every family in its pews with three or fewer children.
This is about employers. The Catholic church is an employer. Why should it be different from any other employer? What if they didn't believe in 40 hour work week? Overtime? OSHA? Should they be exempt from paying FICA for their employees?
Exempt?
Religious employers already get some exemptions...
"In his decision, Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. wrote, “The interest of society in the enforcement of employment discrimination statutes is undoubtedly important. But so, too, is the interest of religious groups in choosing who will preach their beliefs, teach their faith and carry out their mission.”
http://reporter.lcms.org/pages/rpage.asp?NavID=19546&fb_source=message
Jim, you're either being deliberately obtuse or displaying a case of anti-Catholicism.
The Church does not excommunicate people who sin. The Church gets it--that people sin.
The Church forgives sin. That's her business model.
Your other remarks are irrelevant, as NeoMom points out. It is all about the 1st Amendment--which the little Stalinist doesn't like.
Jim,
Contraception is evil.
It desecrates the marital bond, offends against chastity, and is a menace to public morals. It is reprehensible to engage in contraceptive acts or to cooperate in them in any way. This is a matter of natural law; it has nothing to do with religion. Public bodies should not be promoting or enabling this sin. Neither Holy Mother Church, nor any other group, religious or secular, nor any individual should be forced by government to divulge funds for such wicked purposes.
The amazing impudence of those who say, “Whether I contracept is none of your business” while holding a gun to our heads and demanding we pay for their contraceptives is truly breathtaking, particularly since they are not only robbing us, but forcing us to violate our consciences while they do it.
Contraceptives are cheap as dirt and common as water. Let those who want them get them themselves and not gratuitously force those who think them immoral to pay for them.
Painting this as “the Church imposing its morals” on them is like accusing the pistol-whipped victim of armed robbery of lack of charity. This is an act of war against Catholic conscience and religious liberty and a naked act of malice from the Obama Administration.
There must be no compromise.
It must be utterly defeated.
Must!
Holy crap!
It is all about the 1st Amendment
Really? OK. Here's Employment Division v. Smith:
"To permit this [exemption] would be to make the professed doctrines of religious belief superior to the law of the land, and in effect to permit every citizen to become a law unto himself"
- Antonin Scalia
Jim,
There are less and less abortions every year.
Americans are a religious lot. Democrats are fairly godless these days. Obama knows this and he is desperate right now because he knows this.
You need to know that there is room in this world for all of us, and by all i'm including the unborn children currently being contracepted out of existence. There are so many people who want to adapt who cant find children.
Now you want to beat us about the head with an obscure and inapplicable supreme
court case involving the use of peyote in religious ceremonies? Is that your best defence?
Egads, you must mindless refugee hippie from the 60's!
Have you ever read these articles?
There pretty good.
1.
Abortion: A Failure to Communicate
by Paul Swope
http://www.priestsforlife.org/articles/failuretocommunicate.htm
2.
Why War? - One Liberal jesuit's declaration of war and admission of his mistake in defending Democrats in the Past......
http://whosoeverdesires.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/why-war/#more-4541
3.
The Tyrant By James V. Schall, S. J.
http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2012/the-tyrant.html
Oh jim,
and here is the best one yet,
It is from the Bad Catholic.
How the Catholic Church Became Cool Overnight
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/badcatholic/2012/02/how-the-catholic-church-became-cool-overnight.html
Disfruta! mi amigo!
Well, Anon, your tone was somewhat civil, and I appreciate that, but...
Americans are a religious lot. Democrats are fairly godless these days.
So Democrats are not Americans? You lost me in the third sentence. And that's if any sane person would accept that Democrats are "fairly godless". It's a nonsense statement, and it's an insulting statement. It has about the same credence as "Republicans are fairly closeted gays these days." In fact, that statement probably has more credence.
There are so many people who want to adapt [sic] who cant find children.
You mean young, white children, right?
Now you want to beat us about the head with an obscure and inapplicable supreme
court case
I take it you are NOT a constitutional law scholar then.
Not all Supreme Court decisions are Roe v. Wade level. But they all provide guidance and precedence and THIS one is very relevant and very applicable not the least because the opinion was written by a current member of the court.
Egads, you must [sic] mindless refugee hippie from the 60's!
I was there, but I wasn't a hippie. Just like livin' up in the holler wouldn't necessarily make you a hillbilly.
Not sure why you think I would be the least bit interested in your links if I'm a godless, mindless hippie from the 60s. I'll think about giving them a look.
The "religious" right sure can fabricate them some phony outrage. The overwhelming majority of women (Catholics included) use or support the use of birth control, so whipping the minions into a frenzy over this non-issue is a total waste of time. It's time to put the circus animals back in their cages.
"It seems like this is about contraception, but it's not. It seems like this is about the Catholic church, but it's not. It's about the federal government deciding that, in this case contraception, in the next case whatever ideology it happens to be supporting is more important than religious freedom.". Father Jonathan Morris
And he is correct. This is not a slope anyone should want to have the Feds start sliding down.
The Jims and Anonymi cite irrelevant casea and spew anti-Catholic venom regardless, Mom...
To the Left, the Constitution is merely toilet paper.
The Jims and Anonymi cite irrelevant casea
They are only irrelevant because they support our case, not yours. In fact this case is quite relevant. It says that religious organizations are not above the law. That's what Scalia said whether or not you think it's relevant. The Church is a employer and is not above the law.
Isn't it curious that nobody had a problem with this rule in 28 states currently maintaining that rule, but associate it with the ACA or that Kenyan in the White House and OMG!
We know what this is about and it's not freedom of religion. The compromise just eliminated that excuse.
Like Anon 8:31 you all apparently think 99% of American women are whores for even using contraception. You and the Church want women to pay the price of having sex.
Ummm....
First of all, we are protesting this "law", or actually a ruegulation. It is inconstitutional on it's face.
Second, those 28 state laws have broader conscience exemptions.
Third, the "compromise" is nothing more than a frigging fig leaf. No bigger than the Stupak EO sellout. The religious institutions will still have pay for it with they mandatory coverage. Or do you think the insurance companies have a magic free pill maker in their basements?
Lastly... Bite me. The pill costs $15 per month or less for the generics. Gee, how would I know that? Not exactly burdensome to the user. Most policies already cover it. So what? What right does the government have to tell a church what is an acceptable belief? Nobody forces anyone to work for these private institutions. Don't like the benefit package, move on. Don't pull the sanctimonious BS that we hate women.
Until women learn their place in the church, shills like granddad29 will continue to hyperventilate over their twisted dogma. The Victorian sexual frustration that consumes these capricious crusaders is an underlying factor in their extremism.
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