Monday, October 04, 2010

Compare and Contrast: Annual Increases

Jay Weber tells us that MPS granted 3%/year pay increases to teachers for four years in a row with their latest contract.

OK.

MRA surveyed private-sector employers in Wisconsin and found:

...the average increase, 1.4 percent, was still 0.2 percent lower than last year.

That's a ONE-time increase. Last year's was 1.6%. Next year: who knows?

(Only the MPS teachers know.)

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Now for the meat of the story...

1. 17% of companies are laying off workers, compared to 47% a year ago.

2. 50% of those companies have decreased worker hours or had furlough days.

3. More companies are providing bonuses rather than pay increases.

4. Hirings tend to be recalls of layoffs or temps.

5. Many companies are running bare bones operations that they have made profits and are stashing large cash reserves while continuing to lay off employees or cut their pay. Suffice to say, these companies could provide raises for workers, but chose not to.


3% pay raise for 4 years? My, where are the teachers going to
spend all that dough?

Dad29 said...

17% of companies are laying off workers, compared to 47% a year ago.

But not Schools!

50% of those companies have decreased worker hours or had furlough days

But not Schools!!

More companies are providing bonuses rather than pay increases

That's called fiscal prudence. But it doesn't happen in Schools!!

Hirings tend to be recalls of layoffs or temps

So?

Many companies are running bare bones operations that they have made profits and are stashing large cash reserves while continuing to lay off employees or cut their pay

Yes. That's because unlike Schools, private firms cannot pull out guns and forcibly remove money from people. So they are concerned with survival.

But not Schools!!

Anonymous said...

"So they are concerned with survival."

Code for "make a buck at the expense of workers".


You're right, Dad29, there is no national school funding crisis, few teachers have lost their jobs, most teachers have received hefty pay raises to boot, and specific programs have been saved.


fundinwww.csg.org/pubs/capitolideas/Sept_Oct_201/FundingEducation.aspx

www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/05/27/politics/washingtonpost/main6524791.shtml

www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-06-21-califschools-cuts_N.htm

Dad29 said...

So.

In most districts, the number of students has decreased while the number of school functionaries has INcreased over the last 10 years.

Over the last 10++years, cost/pupil has near doubled--with zero measured improvement in outcomes.

As to your ignorance on corporate finance:

Going into an environment full of uncertainty (read: ObamaCare and the possibility of Cap-n-Tax), plus flat/declining sales, it is the obligation of the Company to survive for its SHAREHOLDERS.

Those shareholders include NEA members' retirement-trust funds, among others--like the UAW, Teamsters, and AFSCME.

Companies are NOT obliged to be "social hiring halls" like Governments often are.

Too bad.

Jay Bullock said...

Jay Weber is also wrong.

The contract is four years, and here are the pay raises:
2009-2010: 0%
2010-2011: 3%
2011-2012: 2.5%
2012-2013: 3%

The 10-11 increase will be pretty well eaten by the increase in what we pay for insurance. Two years, no salary increase.

Anonymous said...

OK Jay, here is mine.

2009 -15%
2010 -5%
2011 0%

You win

Dan said...

Oh, I cry for Jay. Don't forget , most teachers also get step pay raises for years served and education credits.
Here, in Vegas, we have not had a pay raise, as teachers, for a couple of years. But spending is still sky rocketing.
But Jay doesn't live in the real world.

Anonymous said...

RE:Anonymous said...
OK Jay, here is mine.

2009 -15%
2010 -5%
2011 0%

You win
***

Hah! That's funny! Teachers make me sick with their whining. If they had to work a real job, and deal with pay cuts, overtime, constant recertification, increasing insurance costs without an accompanying raise *every freaking year*, no 3 months off in the summer, then maybe they would mature and rejoin reality.

Easy degree and way too many benefits. Why the hell do they need a union? I had a friend who got a teaching degree, spending her nights with friends or cutting out shapes with construction paper. In high school she failed so many classes. Meanwhile, I was learning computer languages and suffering through a math minor. And she has the nerve to whine to me that she deserves to make more than 61,000 a year teaching third grade.
Piss off!