Wednesday, August 26, 2009

How Big Is Really, Really, Really Big?

Jed posts a start to the answer here.

Atheists will tell you that it just sorta magically appeared.

Yah, sure.

12 comments:

John Foust said...

There's plenty of scientists who will assure you that they're working on the question, and they can see the outlines of how it happened, but they're content with not pretending to know for the time being... you know, until evidence supports it.

And there's plenty of religious folk who will assure you it was magically created 6,000 years ago, because their Bible told them so.

You're with the Bible folks, right?

Thurmlee said...

John,

Belief that God created the universe does not necessarily mean that one believes it was created 6,000 years ago, and exactly as it is described in Genesis 1 (or even as it is described in Genesis 2). Modern cosmology has taught us much about what happened mere nanoseconds after the big bang, but still has no eveidence of how or why it happened. I can still see the hand of God as the driving force behind the big bang, without denying any of the scientific evidence that is available.

Neo-Con Tastic said...

Thank you Thurmlee, you make some valid points.

Try to ignore Foust, he simply enjoys spreading misinformation and slander about the Church and God.

Dad29 said...

Thurmlee and I are on the same page. You, John, are still stuck in the false dichotomy trap of the typical mind-numbed robot.

John Foust said...

God's in the gaps, they say! Meanwhile science keeps its head down and works on the evidence.

Jay Bullock said...

Atheists will tell you that it just sorta magically appeared.
Actually, I think an all-powerful sky wizard speaking the universe into existence is the "magical" explanation.

Disgruntled Car Salesman said...

Foust, just like evidence of the theory of evolution?

Oh wait, they haven't been able to prove one species yet that has evolved. Not one hard fact to prove it.

.....

Your weak, panty waisted, feeble minded liberal arguments are so full of holes they could be mistaken for those panties you wear everyday.

Jay Bullock said...

Oh wait, they haven't been able to prove one species yet that has evolved. Not one hard fact to prove it.
Ornot.

Disgruntled Car Salesman said...

Or not, Bullock.

http://www.allaboutcreation.org/evidence-for-evolution.htm

Your link seems to make a lot of assumptions about evolution.

You can throw out whatever BS you want, it still has not been SCIENTIFICALLY PROVED.

Is that bold enough for you?

John Foust said...

You cite a creation science web site? Assumptions? Proof? What sort of proof would convince you that evolution is a fact?

And what's that about panties? What kind of web site are you running here, Dad29?

Disgruntled Car Salesman said...

Fousty, evolution is THEORY. Anyone who believes otherwise, is making assumptions, like you.

Whatsa matter, can't take the heat, get outta the kitchen.

John Foust said...

No, evolution is a fact. A preponderence of evidence. What kind of facts convince you, DGS?

Come on Dad29, jump right in: tell him why he's wrong.