Sunday, January 22, 2012

"Safe" Abortions, Eh?

There's a fellow named "Jim" whose brother worked for Planned Barrenhood--so Jim spends a lot of time and effort in my comboxes telling us all about how "good" abortion really is.

Well, then, there are the damn facts....

HT:  Al/Dubuque


Jim said...

Jim spends a lot of time and effort in my comboxes telling us all about how "good" abortion really is.

Excellent example of a straw man, Dad. Excellent.

Because I have not written one word about how "good" abortion is. Not one single word.

As far as your "damn facts" are concerned, I guess no patient at your nearest hospital ever got sick or even died from an infection caught while in the hospital. I guess nobody ever had the wrong limb operated on or removed. I guess no doctor ever left a surgical tool inside the body of a patient. I guess no mother ever died in child birth due to negligence, incompetence, or just plain bad luck.

Those are "damn facts", too.

Dad29 said...

Wanna talk about Philadelphia?

Or how aborto-factories in most States are not required to meet any 'medical facility' standards?

Jim said...

Philadelphia is the city of brotherly love. What about it?

Can you provide evidence of your medical facility standards assertion?

What is you point? I'd venture to guess that better than 99.999% of abortion service providers have better conditions than "back alley" "providers".

Again, you apparently are trying to say that I think abortions are the "cat's pajamas" and everybody should have one. I don't.

It would be great if there were no abortions. It would be great if there were no diabetes. It would be great if there were no broken legs. All of these are "damn facts", too. Abortions have been happening for thousands of years and they will continue for thousands more regardless of what the Church or the law says.

Is death the penalty a woman must pay to have one?

Dad29 said...

Well, Jim, if I 'straw-manned' you, you've returned the favor.

No one, least of all I, has suggested that a woman get the DP for procuring an abortion.

As to Philadelphia, simply google Philadalphia Abortionist" and you'll be up-to-date with the news.

Jim said...

I could make one of your "read for content" remarks, but I won't.

I was not referring to judicial penalties. I was referring to the alternative to a SAFE, legal abortion.

What happened in Philadelphia was terrible. The people involved were terrible people. Columbine was terrible. Bhopal was terrible. Terrible people do terrible things in every corner of the world. But I don't believe we outlawed guns because of what a nut in Colorado did. And we shouldn't paint everybody with the brush of the acts of a few.

Dad29 said...

Oh, the old "coat hanger."

Yah, terrible people do terrible things, Jim. You are right on that score.

So terrible MD's, and terrible fakers, did terrible things.

Not to mention that the mothers did so, too.

Jim said...

Yes, yes. The mothers are terrible people. So I should not be concerned about them?

Al said...

Jim, Gosnell in Philadelphia is not the exception. he is the rule. For another example close to home look at the recently closed NIWC in Rockford. That place was just as bad as Gosnell's place.
The abortion industry is opposed to any regulation that would require them to meet even minimal safety standards.

Additionally, the evidence is mounting of the emotional, spiritual & physical damage done to women who have an abortion. Add to that the evidence of the emotional, psychological & spiritual damage done to men who have a child aborted.

As for the back alley abortion myth, do you even know where that name came from or the truth about them? Back alley refers to the back door of the doctor's office where the woman went into before Roe v Wade to have the abortion. Doctors offices that even then had to meet higher standards than today's abortion mills.

The huge majority of deaths were because of infections like other surgeries produced at that time as well. & as antibiotics came into use, the number of deaths dropped immensely.

Dad, Grazie for the link & helping to get the truth out about the abortion industry.

neomom said...

Not sure you can call them mothers, the act of killing their children kind of is at odds with that term.

Just last week there was also a clinic in Alabama where two women needed to go to the hospital after that safe procedure in a clean clinic - at the same time. The paramedics had to carry them because the building wasn't accessible by a gurney.

Saint Revolution said...

"It is a great poverty to decide that a child must die so that you might live as you wish."
--Blessed Mother Teresa Of Calcutta

All abortion is murder, Jim.

ALL abortion is murder, Jim.

AAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL abortion is murder, Jim.

The lives of all Mothers, all fetuses, and all of us are "bought and paid for"..."every hair is counted"...owned ONLY by God to give and to take.

"...but the very hairs of your head are all numbered..."
Matthew 10:30

"...The Lord gave, and The Lord hath taken away: as it hath pleased The Lord so is it done: blessed be The Name Of The Lord..."
Job 01:21

No man has any right.

No Mother has any right.

No matter what.

All abortion is murder, Jim.

Abortion is murder.

J. Strupp said...

Selective Libertarianism. You guys are all the same.

Anonymous said...

Hey Jim,

There are 20 k people in Washington DC who disagree with you... See the picture.

......For the 37th year running, Washington's Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception pushed the fire-code to its limit tonight as the National Vigil for Life kicked off in advance of tomorrow's March, marking the the Supreme Court's 22 January 1973 decision in Roe v. Wade........

Anonymous said...

Its even better in San Francisco

West Coast Pro-life March Draws 40,000 in San Francisco

Anonymous said...

I think people need to realize what exactly has been the history of the Roman Catholic Church's teaching on abortion. There seems to be contradictions abound.

Anonymous said...

Please sign the Petition.

Sign the Petition for the “Life At Conception Act”“life-at-conception-act”/

Anonymous said...


Another example of how abortions are safe.
Please read.

Anonymous said...


and there is more.... Can you say:

“fetomaternal microchimerism.”

............According to Krulwich there is increasing evidence that “when a woman has a baby, she gets not just a son or daughter, [but] an army of protective cells – gifts from her children that will stay inside her and defend her for the rest of her life..........

Jim said...

Can you say: “fetomaternal microchimerism.”

Yes, Anon, I can. Can you say "antidisestablishmentarianism"?

I read your link. It has some interesting information. But it didn't say when the "fetal cells" are produced. Upon conception? Since that is supposedly when life begins. Or after 30 weeks?

I'm not seeing the relevance to this thread.