Saturday, August 01, 2020

"Moral Obligation" for Vaccination? Hmmmmm

The Bishops of England may wish to clarify their statement.

The Catholic Church supports vaccination because it helps to protect society’s most vulnerable people, bishops in England said Thursday....

...They wrote: “The Catholic Church strongly supports vaccination and regards Catholics as having a prima facie duty to be vaccinated, not only for the sake of their own health but also out of solidarity with others, especially the most vulnerable.”  

“We believe that there is a moral obligation to guarantee the vaccination coverage necessary for the safety of others.”....

Umnnnnhhhhh......

If those Bishops are speaking about the vaccinations given infants against tuberculosis, polio, (etc.) they may have a point; those vaxes have been around for generations and they work.  Yes, sometimes those vaxes cause problems and we all pray for those infants.   But just as with Covid-19, there will always be problems.  We cannot eliminate a virus (no matter what the Government(s) say) and we cannot eliminate problems with vaccinations.

The Kung Flu vaccine is a different story

...Environmental lawyer Robert F. Kennedy Jr. pointed out during an online debate on July 23 that key parts of testing are being skipped.

“The Moderna vaccine, which is the lead candidate, skipped the animal testing altogether,” Kennedy said. It was also tested on only “45 people. They had a high-dose group of 15 people, a medium-dose group of 15 people, and a low growth group of 15 people.”

“In the low-dose group, one of the people was so sick from the vaccine they had to be hospitalized,” he explained. “That’s six percent. In the high-dose group, three people got so sick they had to be hospitalized. That’s twenty percent.”...

Those are pretty high percentages.

But it gets worse.

...Another problem with the testing of the coronavirus vaccine is that it’s tested not on “typical Americans,” but a carefully selected group of people who don’t suffer from certain conditions.

“They use what they call exclusionary criteria,” Kennedy said. “They are only giving these vaccines in these tests that they’re doing to the healthiest people.”

“If you look at their exclusionary idea criteria: You cannot be pregnant, you cannot be overweight, you must have never smoked a cigarette, you must have never vaped, you must have no respiratory problems in your family, you can’t suffer asthma, you can’t have diabetes, you can’t have rheumatoid arthritis or any autoimmune disease. There has to be no history of seizure in the family. These are the people they’re testing the vaccine on.”

He asked, “What happens when they give them to the typical American? You know, Sally Six-Pack and Joe Bag of Donuts who’s 50 pounds overweight and has diabetes.”...

If Kennedy is correct about all that, I don't think the English Bishops (or any OTHER Bishops) want to make this vaccine into a "moral imperative."  For that matter, I don't think Trump should be blowing the horn so damn loudly about this, either.

Oh, well.

13 comments:

AMalek said...

Here we go. I was expecting this. We can hardly be surprised that the modernist Bishops continue to take orders from their globalist masters.

Praypraypray said...

Where is their trust in the healing power of God?

Anonymous said...



Kennedy is an anti-vaxer. Which is sheer lunacy.

I don't trust him at all in this area.

susan said...

"For that matter, I don't think Trump should be blowing the horn so damn loudly about this, either."

^^^THIS!!!^^^....a thousand times!

Anonymous said...

What is wrong with being an anti-vaxer to a certain extent. Anonymous, you do know that their are several vaccines on the market made and derived from aborted fetal lines don't you??? We hav a moral obligation to reject those!!!!!!! Wake up you fool!

Justina said...

I am a little surprised (OK, a lot alarmed) at Dad29's cavalier attitude towards vaccine injury in general. The Catholic Church regards each individual as infinitely valuable, due to being created in the image and likeness of God. Would we say about abortion, "yeah, it causes problems for some unborn babies, and we pray for those little guys. Oh, well." No, we would not. In the same way, as Catholics we must resist the secularist temptation of regarding the vaccine injured as necessary collateral damage in the quest for the "greater good". That is the medical ethics of the National Socialists, whose goal of "racial (or group) hygiene" subordinated the individual to the collective.

Dad29 said...

OK, Justina. YOU prevent measles, mumps, rubella, and polio in 99.5% of the children without vaccines.

Then come by with your "virtue."

Anonymous said...

Well said, Justina. When you have Dad29 fumbling, you know you are correct in your assessment.

Dad29 said...

Ah, yes. LeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeRoy sticks his head out of his hole, being "anonymous" and--as usual--lies.

Justina said...

The end (preventing measles, etc.) does not justify the means (knowingly injuring and even killing the innocent). What you characterize as "my 'virtue'" is the teaching of the Catholic Church.

Anonymous said...

You don’t need a vaccine for measles, mumps, or chicken pox. The consequences of infection are usually quite benign. Before those vaccines existed, virtually every child had those illnesses in early grade school. The same goes for the flu. A robust immune system is much more important than taking vaccines. That is achieved by living a healthy life style, including exercise and diet.

Dad29 said...

There is no "need" for seat-belts, either. While children did get mumps and measles in grade school (as I did), if same can be prevented, that's to the good. And since chicken pox can be fatal and have other serious consequences, it looks to me that you are arguing FOR illness.

Why? Cui bono when children are sick?

Before those vaccines existed, by the way, mortality was a lot earlier on the average. Jus' sayin'.....

Anonymous said...

Dad29 is upset that he was one-upped by a female. On his blog, he wears the pants. In his homelife, not so much.