Saturday, December 05, 2009

"Public Option Desired"? Maybe Not

Legal Insurrection did the homework that the MSM did NOT do. He got the actual 'public option' questions from the Thomson poll.

The information provided by Thomson Reuters was very interesting. The question was not as simple as the press release made it sound: "60 percent of Americans believe a public option should be included in final healthcare legislation." Here is the question:
For this next section, please rate the statements using a scale of 1 to 5 where 1 means "Strongly Disagree" and 5 means "Strongly Agree". The higher the number, the more you agree with the statement. You can use any number in between. (READ AND ROTATE)

6a. The quality of healthcare delivered in our country will be better 12 months from now.
6b. It will be easier for people to receive care they need 12 months from now.
6c. The value of care delivered will be better 12 months from now.
6d. The total amount of money your family spends on healthcare will decrease 12 months from now.

7a. Do you believe a "Public Option" (like Medicare for everyone) should be included as part of the final legislation that Congress passes into law?
a. Yes
b. No
c. DK/NS
d. Refused
A few points. In the question, the "public option" was described as "like Medicare for everyone." Needless to say, none of the public options that are or have been under discussion fit that description.

Second, whereas the other question allowed people to rank the strength of their feelings on a scale of 1-5, the public option question did not provide for any level of nuance. You're either for it or against it or not sure.

Third, in the results according to Thomson Reuters, 59.9% answered "Yes" and 40.1% answered "No." Does that mean that no one (or at least fewer than one-tenth of one percent of people) didn't know or were not sure? That strikes me as very strange.

The result is that this poll, like so many others, is not what it seems. I do not suggest any bad intent on the part of Thomson Reuters, but why not try other questions which presented the public option in a less rosy context?

Better question: will ObamaCare get jammed down our throats no matter WHAT public opinion says?


Deekaman said...

Better question: will ObamaCare get jammed down our throats no matter WHAT public opinion says?

Answer: Definite "maybe".

Disgruntled Car Salesman said...

B M A.

Paul Burke said...

The fact remains that big insurance by refusing care to patients and reimbursement to doctors over typos has ticked everyone off. They have a monopoly over the whole process and a well financed lobby team (including Lieberman's wife) and representatives on both sides of the isle.

A friend of mine recently laid off just he and his spouse is paying $2,500.00 dollars a month for his COBRA. Health insurance costs more than his mortgage. Anyone taking up the insurance industry's cause doesn't know what they are talking about.

If you think the insurance companies are going to voluntarily lower their cost while having a monopoly over the process – you are being disingenuous …Over 60% of all US bankruptcies are attributable to medical problems. Most victims are middle class, well educated and have health insurance - (The American Journal of Medicine)

The insurance companies and their representatives in Congress would love to perpetuate a business model that is crippling our overall economy – a bunch of great Americans aren’t they?

90% of the wealth concentrated in 1% of the population is no way to run a country but a heck of a way to establish a royalty ruling class. Yacht sales can not sustain 350 million people. I'm for the public option, competition and a level playing field or break up the big insurers like we did AT&T.

A slavish focus on profit margin might be good for the individual or a business, but it is one helluva lousy way to "govern" a Country. The GOP being a wholly owned subsidiary of Corporate America has a hard time with that concept.

Paul Burke
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Dad29 said...

Did you ever ask your friend for documentation of that $2500/month expenditure? B/C that is, without a doubt, the HIGHEST insurance premium I've ever heard of--and I do know a little about HR/Personnel stuff.

Second, there are a LOT of insurance companies. Your thesis, that they are in collusion to maintain high rates, is shaky, at best. BS is more like it.

Finally, Paul, the "health bills cause BK" line is mythology. The fact that people HAVE health bills is only a small part of the BK process. Usually there's rent, utilities, car, and other debt, too...

Or don't those people live in houses, drive, and have heat?

Thanks, but your contentions are facially farcical.

Deekaman said...

Paul: What indication do you have that the government will be able to run healthcare more economically than they do Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare, the Military, or anything else?

Tell me. When the government starts clearing "waste and fraud" out of ANY government program, I'll reconsider my stand on Obamacare.