Tuesday, December 08, 2020

Where's Cock Robin (Vos)?

 Hmmmm.

...Ellis predicted that the legislatures of Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, and Michigan would use their authority over determining Electoral College electors in order to reverse the fraud which Ellis argued was responsible for Biden's margin in those states....

Not Wisconsin?  Not Wisconsin, with the egregious 200,000++ ballot-mailing?  With the umpty-thousand vote "indefinitely confined" scam?  With the 'screw you, you miserable observers' in Milwaukee?

Oh, wait........Robin authorized hearings for next week or something.

Wow.   Maybe Robin needs a home visit from patriots, eh?

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

"Wow. Maybe Robin needs a home visit from patriots, eh?"

More empty threats on your part. Put up or shut up. Go to his home, show us how you "vent". Provide pictures as documentary evidence.

"Not Wisconsin, with the egregious 200,000++ ballot-mailing?"

Not egregious in the least. Just people choosing to exercise their right to vote in a legal manner.

Dad29 said...

*yawn*

You have the mis-apprehension that I take YOUR advice.

There were lots of election frauds in Wisconsin. Some people voted legally. Democrats, not so much.

Anonymous said...

Not lots, but here and there. Assuredly not to the level that you and others perceive.

The huge numbers of absentee votes have thrown conservatives for a loop, because they’ve made the vote counting process much less intuitive than it was in previous elections. The procedures for counting the absentee votes vary substantially between states, between counties in the same state, and even between municipalities in the same county. So the timing and granularity of vote count reports was different from one place to the next, generating suspicion and confusion.

The confusion was exacerbated because it just took way longer to count the vastly larger numbers of these ballots. Laws that absentee ballots could not be counted before election day suddenly were much more relevant and resulted in delayed reporting. Some of these “late night vote dumps” were in fact reports of votes counted by large numbers of people working continuously from the moment they were legally allowed to start counting. It just took them a long time to finish.

The real story may turn out to be that mass absentee balloting is just inherently better for the Democrats. It will be hard to put that genie back into the bottle. [And] Trump knew that the mail in votes favored Democrats so even before the election he started sowing [doubt] about them, knowing that in the swing states he would “win” on election night and then lose later on once the absentee ballots were counted.

The problem with this is that, despite all the hand waving, no one has any substantial proof that this actually happened on a large scale. If there was some kind of vast conspiracy, someone would have talked by now. All the “evidence” offered by Trump and by conspiracy theorists here and elsewhere has not really panned out or was just blowing smoke to begin with. It is desirable to yell the election was stolen since it keeps the angry base more inclined to give donations.

Of course, right-wing, partisan media outlets (Breitbart, The Gateway Pundit, and Just the News) often go further than resharing or decontextualizing content: they also rewrite news stories originally reported by other outlets, and republish them with a new and often misleading partisan framing. In the stories we’ve analyzed, these outlets modify headlines and add sentences to suggest that individual election and mail irregularities represent widespread fraud and electoral uncertainty. These outlets were outliers from the other news organizations in our dataset, because they both appeared in many different incidents that we analyzed, and their content was often shared widely on Twitter.

Remember, Trump stated 100 percent he would win no matter what. If he won, there was no fraud. If he lost, there was massive fraud. That is insane, given how many people were not fans of him or his policies, including Republicans.

And the fact that Republican candidates did better than Trump in down-ballot races means that voters split their votes. Enough Republican voters had made up their minds in the weeks before the election that Trump was not what they expected of a president and voted accordingly. Furthermore, a lot of it can be exampled by increased black turnout rates and Trump’s drop in support among white men could be explained by his facing off against another white male this time.

Put all of these things together, and this result need not be explained by massive, perpetual fraud at all.

Dad29 said...

Altogether, a well-written pile of propaganda, Dave/James.

But not persuasive.

There are sworn affadavits about ballots being trucked around the country, unloaded from trucks LATE in the 'count,' voting machines which 'adjust' vote totals, and un-verified signatures. You assert, without foundation, that those are "insufficient" for purposes of reversing the vote. You would also ignore the criminal activity of Wisconsin residents (??--not proven) who claimed "confinement" but who are certainly not "confined." There is testimony that voting machines were connected to the 'net,' with proof of traffic to foreign countries.

That's before we get to the Democrat stonewalling of Republican observers both during the election AND at the "recounts". Wonder why THAT happened? Not you. See-hear-speak problem much??

Asserting--without evidence--that 'Republicans don't want Trump' is the line that's been pushed for 180 days by the pollsters who have been remarkably wrong not only this year, but in '16, but to you, it's Gospel. Sure.

It may eventuate that SCOTUS refuses to order Article II remedy in the four States in question. That doesn't make this election licit, friend. It merely is a show of hope that 'unification' will settle in.

It won't.

Anonymous said...

Not propaganda, just facts that you conveniently ignore. The sworn affidavits are accusations. There must be verification of their claims. Perhaps you are willing to prove how the U.S. Army seized servers for Dominion in Germany, how the Trump team has in its possession a Dominion machine from Ware County, Georgia with clear proof that votes had been purposely switched for Biden, and how Trump will invoke the Insurrection Act and declare martial law by the end of December.

Dad29 said...

Nope. You write very nice propaganda. I didn't ignore one word of it!! It has all the substance of a summer breeze, and it's December, so......

You probably don't know about how "civil courts" work. After the accusations, a judge determines if there is "probable cause" for a trial.
You with me so far? Read it again if you don't understand!

At the trial, verification will be brought forward.

Got that?

Personally, I never swallowed the Germany-war-server-SF-v-CIA thing whole. It may be true; it may not. Nor have I heard that Trump & Co are in possession of the Ware County device. That may be true, too.

He should have declared the Insurrection Act several months ago, in Washington and Oregon, with a soupcon of Airborne in Kenosha.

Shoo, fly.

Anonymous said...

The judges have determined time and time again the accusations regarding widespread fraud lack merit.

Of course you swallowed the Germany server and Ware County stories, you're just being lazy in not further supporting those allegations.

And Trump doesn't have the guts to declare martial law. Tough talk. You ought to know.