Thursday, July 04, 2013

Zimmerman Case Goes Off the Edge

This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone with common sense.

Angela Corey, Florida’s state attorney and the prosecutor against Zimmerman, has been indicted by a citizens’ grand jury for allegedly falsifying an arrest warrant and the complaint that led to Zimmerman being charged with the second-degree murder of Trayvon Martin.

HT:  Bob Owens


J. Strupp said...

Again, you have no clue what you're talking about, Dad.

A "citizens grand jury" is some made up thing by Larry Klayman.

Dad29 said...

Actually, it's made up of citizens.

By the way, you seem to be at a loss in the ObozoCare Trainwreck story.

Just like your Keynesian Rainbows and Unicorns story....

J. Strupp said...

Larry Klayman creation, numbskull:

Johnny Rico Says... said...

"Actually, it's made up of citizens".

Strupp, Dad29's bordering on insanity by linking to this story. Their decision...means...nothing.

According to wikipedia, "In the United States, a citizen grand jury is a NON-ACTIONABLE, NON-GOVERNMENTAL non-actionable, non-governmental organization that assumes a responsibility upon itself to accuse an individual or groups of individuals of having committed actionable crimes, in a similar aim as that of official grand juries.

Such organizations have been organized by those who espouse conspiracy theories regarding certain events or the individuals who are accused by the citizen grand jury, and most citizen grand jury applications to official judiciary systems at the federal, state, or local and municipal level tend to be thrown out for lack of evidence."

So, Dad29, I imagine in the future that if these organizations indict an individual or groups that you align with politically or socially, you will honor their decisions as legitimate, because that is the implication you are making here. Great to know.

Dad29 said...

Exactly where in my post do I assert the 'authoritative' nature of the jury in question, RICO? Be specific.

It's rather cute to watch you two bozos leap to conclusions.

Next thing you know, you'll presume Zimmerman to be guilty, while the prosecution witnesses do their level best to prove him NOT guilty.

Dad29 said...

Oh, by the way: the Declaration of Independence was written by NON-citizens of England.

They, too, lacked "authority."

Keep that in mind, twits.

J. Strupp said...

Nothing much has changed around here. You're still an arrogant jerk.

Johnny Rico Says... said...

"Exactly where in my post do I assert the 'authoritative' nature of the jury in question, RICO? Be specific."

You neglected to qualify "citizens grand jury"; there is an implication that this group has specific authority.

Next thing you know, IF Zimmerman is guilty, you'll cry "foul", even though a jury did their due diligence.

As an aside, I don't give a damn about the outcome of the trial; I'm just keeping you honest. As your pal Vox Day put it, the defendant and the dead kid are just "savages".

"Oh, by the way: the Declaration of Independence was written by NON-citizens of England. They, too, lacked "authority."

You don't know history. The first English settlers in America considered themselves citizens of England and subjects of the Crown, with all the rights, privileges, and responsibilities that citizenship entailed. As the colonists began to prosper, the spread of information through books, pamphlets newspapers and so on infused the Americans with a political sense of that to which they were entitled as citizens of England/Great Britain. In 1765, the Stamp Act Congress passed a "Declaration of Rights and Grievances," which claimed that American colonists as CITIZENS of an empire were equal to all other British citizens and demanded representation in Parliament.

Anonymous said...

Better study YOUR history better, Rico.

The colonists could pass all the "declarations" they want, but it didn't make them citizens of England.

Just like "citizens' grand juries" can indict anyone they want---

Get the drift?

Johnny Rico Says... said...

England/Great Britain formally recognized the colonists as citizens. They were granted self-government, received protection from foreigners, and levied their own taxes.

Now, the comparison between the Founding Forefathers declaring their independence from what was clearly an oppressive regime and a citizen grand jury declaring that an officer of the court is oppressive is NOT even remotely on the same intellectual plane in this case. The key point is that Great Britain exhibited specific, repeated instances of oppression; the Florida state attorney has ALLEGEDLY engaged in such conduct. Find the hard evidence that without clearly demonstrates willful misconduct on her part.

Until that time, feel free to twist and turn logic to fit your conclusion.

Grim said...

"J'accuse" was also a non-actionable, non-governmental indictment, by a grand jury of one. If the charge is true and well-founded, it will have power.

Johnny Rico Says... said...

An author, not a grand jury of one, was the driving force in the Dreyfus case. And the operative word is "IF", as I acknowledged, should the accusations be true.

Seems to me that the actions of the French government at that time were similar to those put forth by Dad29's hero, Joseph McCarthy.