tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post6698558100271223483..comments2024-03-28T09:54:55.115-05:00Comments on Dad29: Screwing Small Business Into ObamaCareDad29http://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-35092787012810250672009-07-23T16:39:00.364-05:002009-07-23T16:39:00.364-05:00The bill itself is fantasy, as was mentioned by CB...The bill itself is fantasy, as was mentioned by CBO and many others.<br /><br />So if the (D) party writes a bill rescinding the law of gravity, you'll tell me that it is NOT fantasy.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-14489887754539554482009-07-23T16:25:46.020-05:002009-07-23T16:25:46.020-05:00Hey, I'm just going with the language of the b...Hey, I'm just going with the language of the bill. I'm not the one inventing fantasy here.Jay Bullockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18303687624670151530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-41121653290079558072009-07-23T12:41:06.446-05:002009-07-23T12:41:06.446-05:00So you believe that "only by premiums" m...So you believe that "only by premiums" means that the "Public Option" will not have Federal payroll, Federal start-up capital, and Federal cash transfusions when there is a shortfall?<br /><br />How's your Easter Bunny?<br /><br />You can look to Medicare/aid as an example of precisely how the Feds will "remedy" shortfalls: either throw more tax money at it, force the States to throw more tax money at it, OR reduce payments to providers.<br /><br />Of course, there is the Sunshine And Rainbows approach, which you seem to believe.....Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-13656230210376714882009-07-23T12:00:13.247-05:002009-07-23T12:00:13.247-05:00Um, the House "tri-committee" bill. The...Um, the House "tri-committee" bill. The same one you're talking about. The "public option" part of that plan is financed only by premiums.Jay Bullockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18303687624670151530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-47655149787715901542009-07-23T09:46:40.958-05:002009-07-23T09:46:40.958-05:00NaziCare, in fact, BORROWS the money through defic...NaziCare, in fact, BORROWS the money through deficit spending (about $1Trillion over 10 years).<br /><br />And what is not BORROWED through deficit-spending is TAKEN from "the rich" in the form of tax manipulations.<br /><br />Exactly what "plan" were YOU looking at, Jay?Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-27315888919017415382009-07-23T09:30:42.175-05:002009-07-23T09:30:42.175-05:00Once again proving you don't know what you'...Once again proving you don't know what you're talking about. Either you know what's in the plans or you don't--and that last comment shows that you don't.Jay Bullockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18303687624670151530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-77922099697934017852009-07-23T05:36:06.532-05:002009-07-23T05:36:06.532-05:00"Health care gets cheaper for everyone"
..."Health care gets cheaper for everyone"<br /><br />????<br /><br />I can sell you an HI policy for $1/year, Jay, so long as I can steal the other ~$15K in actual cost from Other People's Money, or borrow it from Chinamen.<br /><br />Have a cup of coffee so the "logic" part of your brain starts up, Jay.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-66378068787262767192009-07-23T05:05:52.178-05:002009-07-23T05:05:52.178-05:00So some business will have greatly reduced costs, ...So some business will have greatly reduced costs, and some will have slightly higher costs, and health care gets cheaper for everyone?<br /><br />I'd take that system.Jay Bullockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18303687624670151530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-20855094199704160552009-07-22T18:09:27.532-05:002009-07-22T18:09:27.532-05:00Not exactly, Jay, but nice selective thinking.
IF...Not exactly, Jay, but nice selective thinking.<br /><br />IF a business is now providing health insurance, the business gets to choose either continuing the HI payments OR <i>significantly reducing that obligation</i> by paying the 8% Fascist-care tax instead.<br /><br />THUS, there will be 'new people' looking for insurance--precisely what Dear Leader wants.<br /><br />OTOH, IF a business does NOT provide HI, it's a net no-change to the number of people looking for insurance BUT a net 8% NEW COST to the business.<br /><br />The Sensible Plan (R) is to provide a refundable tax credit so people can buy their own HI--tailored precisely to their needs, not a Dear-Leader "designed" plan which by necessity will not be "tailored" in the least.<br /><br />No, Jay, they will not want ObamaCare. And yes, the Fascist-Care Plan will BOTH throw new people into the market AND reduce small-biz profitability--thus payrolls.<br /><br />Nice try.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-34230347026845723202009-07-22T17:50:15.334-05:002009-07-22T17:50:15.334-05:00Wait. On the one hand, you're saying that man...Wait. On the one hand, you're saying that many small businesses right now can't afford to provide coverage to their employees and would be socked by a mandate to do so, but on the other hand, you're claiming that a bunch of new people will be forced into "the Gummint plan" because small businesses won't provide coverage.<br /><br />You can't have it both ways!<br /><br />Look, either a business can afford to provide coverage and does <b>or</b> its employees are <i>already</i> on their own to get insurance, and they might like some additional competition (i.e., the public option) in their plan.<br /><br />This is not rocket science.Jay Bullockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18303687624670151530noreply@blogger.com