tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post6370172380536018189..comments2024-03-28T09:54:55.115-05:00Comments on Dad29: UW Prof: You Are "Stupid"Dad29http://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-57294907141248963562010-11-23T11:38:24.492-06:002010-11-23T11:38:24.492-06:00Yes, BUT...
It had to do with (voter) attitudes t...Yes, BUT...<br /><br />It had to do with (voter) attitudes toward POLICY.<br /><br />One expects that attitude translates into votes, given the opportunity.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-71438962820454046652010-11-23T11:14:36.356-06:002010-11-23T11:14:36.356-06:00That article had nothing to do with voting.That article had nothing to do with voting.jimspicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16316014985662331998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-87903816303985012692010-11-23T08:42:30.845-06:002010-11-23T08:42:30.845-06:00And today's news brings this:
New research fi...And today's news brings this:<br /><br /><i>New research findings add complexity to the basic assumption that humans act in their own economic self-interest. By analyzing hundreds of survey questions from 1952 to 2006, Peter Enns, assistant professor of government, and Nathan Kelly of the University of Tennessee found that as inequality rises, low income individuals' attitudes toward redistribution become more conservative.</i><br /><br />http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2010/11/study-shows-dems-class-warfare-futile.html<br /><br />Which, if true, means that it IS "policy."Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-35632161067939364662010-11-22T20:36:18.152-06:002010-11-22T20:36:18.152-06:00So stuff like obscene deficits, ObamaCare (opposed...So stuff like obscene deficits, ObamaCare (opposed by up to 68% of the country)....<br /><br />...that had nothing to do with it?<br /><br />I know about the 'economics' driver you mentioned, and I'm not willing to dismiss that out of hand.<br /><br />At the same time, exit surveys seem to indicate that that particular driver was one 'among others,' specifically the deficit(s)/debt and ObamaCare.<br /><br />I do think that the "Big Gummint" thing was not part of the equasion except for a relative few.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-66852599124976731862010-11-22T16:30:03.828-06:002010-11-22T16:30:03.828-06:00Well, it's been 15 years since I studied it in...Well, it's been 15 years since I studied it in any depth, and recent elections may stray from the pattern (though I doubt it), but economics is the overriding factor in vote choice, but counter-intuitively, it is NOT pocket book voting. It is an individual's perception of the national economy. And for some reason, it's pinned to 6 months prior to the election. That's why I was predicting both chambers going R last May. Thank you T-Party.<br /><br />Where do you and the Walker people get the idea that voters have suddenly become policy wonks?jimspicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16316014985662331998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-32033718232706927532010-11-22T16:11:32.357-06:002010-11-22T16:11:32.357-06:00And by the way: Insisting that the election was ...And by the way: Insisting that the election was simply a pocketbook election is a sign of being indoctrinated by the Left's pundits.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-91072931890910592682010-11-22T16:10:19.566-06:002010-11-22T16:10:19.566-06:00Well, I don't have GWB's IQ measure in my ...Well, I don't have GWB's IQ measure in my desk drawer. Nor Obama's. One could easily argue that they are equals, by the way.<br /><br />You seem to think that Conservatives "voted their pocketbook." I don't think so.<br /><br />Conservatives voted the policy question(s)--ObamaCare, the 10th Amendment, and deficits.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-88133647460605579992010-11-22T15:56:51.784-06:002010-11-22T15:56:51.784-06:00Relatively speaking, when your pool is only those ...Relatively speaking, when your pool is only those that have risen to the highest office in the land, I think it would be difficult to argue that Bush was in anything but the lowest quintile. Do you disagree? Sure, he's smarter than the average American, but as I mentioned, that not really saying much.<br /><br />Conservative voters? Stupid? No. But they are definitely voting against their own economic self interest, having been bamboozled by big biz and those that do their bidding.jimspicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16316014985662331998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-80382521149406027832010-11-22T14:48:19.451-06:002010-11-22T14:48:19.451-06:00Bush: stupid.
Reagan: stupid.
Voters Who Vote C...Bush: stupid.<br /><br />Reagan: stupid.<br /><br />Voters Who Vote Conservative: stupid.<br /><br />Intellectualoids: one-word vocabulary.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-71984539912920192432010-11-22T13:49:50.487-06:002010-11-22T13:49:50.487-06:00Actually many, many, many very prominent, not-so-p...Actually many, many, many very prominent, not-so-prominent and intellectualoid and run-of-the-mill liberals have called the Tea Party stupid (among other things) over the past couple of years.<br /><br />You must be an anomoly?neomomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04830635556787370135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-86204109309232946782010-11-22T12:50:05.180-06:002010-11-22T12:50:05.180-06:00Um, that would be expected? Education and politica...Um, that would be expected? Education and political engagement/activism are highly correlated. No liberal worth their salt would call them stupid. Just wrong. By the way, here's a link to to the demographics section of that poll: http://nyti.ms/t-party-demographicsjimspicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16316014985662331998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-72269373305880610662010-11-22T12:31:26.672-06:002010-11-22T12:31:26.672-06:00Hey - didn't the New York Times even put out a...Hey - didn't the New York Times even put out an analysis that showed that Tea Party supporters, on average were better educated than the general population? Pop! Goes the liberal bubble.neomomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04830635556787370135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-5367660093732538512010-11-22T12:02:28.709-06:002010-11-22T12:02:28.709-06:00I'd like to think, and the stats would support...I'd like to think, and the stats would support me, that my side skews a bit more brainy, but yeah, we have our share of dead wood.<br /><br />And I believe you are giving even the brighter voters more credit than they deserve. They were voting the economy, not policy. Ask a political scientist...oh, wait, you have that that whole distrust of academics thing. Nevermind.jimspicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16316014985662331998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-33111479972163867952010-11-22T10:44:53.219-06:002010-11-22T10:44:53.219-06:00And it's irrelevant.
"Voters" are d...And it's irrelevant.<br /><br />"Voters" are designated as such by the States. I wasn't all that thrilled with the 08 results, but the voters are who the voters are.<br /><br />In the end, the voters decided that Doylet's POLICIES were stupid--and the same goes for Obama's POLICIES.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-79897363540854791592010-11-22T10:39:36.844-06:002010-11-22T10:39:36.844-06:00So in your book, the same "stupids" vote...So in your book, the same "stupids" voted for Obama and the (D) Congress a few years before him.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-6521759220388097422010-11-22T08:39:43.272-06:002010-11-22T08:39:43.272-06:00What's your cutoff for stupid? It's like t...What's your cutoff for stupid? It's like the old joke, 50% of doctors graduated in the bottom half of their class. There is a citizen out there somewhere who represents the absolute average, the "C" grade, middling intellect. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, brightest bulb on the tree, a few bristles short of a broom. Think Jay Walking. Now, realize that half the nation is dumber than that.jimspicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16316014985662331998noreply@blogger.com