tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post2700604569830564143..comments2024-03-28T02:28:46.404-05:00Comments on Dad29: Hewitt and Jaffa and Coulter, Too!Dad29http://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-85673091148132998092012-07-07T07:24:52.297-05:002012-07-07T07:24:52.297-05:00"The French--inspired by Rousseau--decided to..."The French--inspired by Rousseau--decided to do so."<br /><br />Not quite. The French Revolution was a complex event in which multiple groups of people fought to attain power. The massacre of the Vendeans was committed by radical elements who had perverted the works of Rousseau--who had affirmed the necessity of religion and its freedom to worship--for their own designs. <br /><br />These revolutionaries received their comeuppance by those individuals dedicated to ensuring freedom of religion. Even Napoleon enabled Catholics, Protestants, and Jews to practice their religion without fear of persecution.<br /><br />"Further, the French did not "have to" 'create a radical new society' by killing off Catholics like the Vendees."<br /><br />Hey, isn't this action part of your "Buy More Ammo" meme? You should be proud that arms were taken up by people to defend their views without compromise.<br /><br />Not that French Catholics prior to and during the French Revolution had committed their own atrocities against French Protestants called the Huguenots;<br /><br />or that there had been religious hatred between these two groups for over two centuries;<br /><br />or that the the massacre of Vendeans was in response to their loyalty to the Church and Crown, that ANY group regardless of their religious or social class affiliation would have received the same treatment in what amounted to a CIVIL WAR;<br /><br />or that Napoleon made peace with the Vendeans, recognizing their sacrifice had been for the preservation of liberty and repairing relations with this group exempting them from the draft and providing them monetary compensation.<br /><br />Yep, it's all Rousseau's "fault". I thought only libruls finger-pointed...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-80282960237107962712012-07-06T06:18:23.835-05:002012-07-06T06:18:23.835-05:00It is clear that the French liberals and revolutio...<i>It is clear that the French liberals and revolutionaries could not identify themselves with the Declaration of Independence</i><br /><br />Actually, it is not "clear" at all.<br /><br />The revolutionaries could easily have adopted the PRINCIPLES of the Declaration. Further, the French did not "have to" 'create a radical new society' by killing off Catholics like the Vendees.<br /><br />The main point, of course, is one which you ignore. The Americans never forgot 'the Creator.' The French--inspired by Rousseau--decided to do so.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-10381087543496977442012-07-05T23:04:52.611-05:002012-07-05T23:04:52.611-05:00Coulter is not a historian, nor is she even a good...Coulter is not a historian, nor is she even a good writer. It is important for Americans to remember that in France in early September, 1792, universal suffrage was decreed for the first time anywhere in national elections. The vote and the subsequent declaration of a republic, though carried out imperfectly under trying conditions, was a real manifestation of the important series of "human rights" created in France at this time. It has long been accepted that the process of democratization introduced during the French Revolution constitutes one of the defining moments in modern history. And yet it is not this singular and fundamental historical development—or others of a similar import that occurred between 1789 and 1794—that finds a place among a number of American conservatives about the French Revolution but, inevitably, the Terror and the guillotine.<br /><br />A major difference in the Revolutions lay in the rights that the American former colonists sought to preserve, while the former French subjects had to create them, not out of a state of nature, but through the establishment of a man-made and radically new civil society. It is clear that the French liberals and revolutionaries could not identify themselves with the Declaration of Independence, which, in its list of grievances, proved that the American Revolution was sparked by the violation of existing rights by the king of England (rights of the Englishmen); the post-feudal French had to assert completely new rights in a radically transformed society.<br /><br />French revolutionaries, paving the way for other European revolutions and for French expansion as well as for historiographical interpretations, saw in their own actions and declarations a universal message that was the bearer of profound changes for world history. When drafting their own declaration of rights and constitution, the French National Assembly members thought that their own situation, as a "regenerated people," led them to copy the American example in formulating universal principles.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-48742416440453200262012-07-05T14:24:57.179-05:002012-07-05T14:24:57.179-05:00What's his problem with Hegel? Aside from the...What's his problem with Hegel? Aside from the fact that he's an incredible pain to read, of course.Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-23644010775859740332012-07-05T13:11:13.197-05:002012-07-05T13:11:13.197-05:00Interesting. I've read lots of articles and s...Interesting. I've read lots of articles and studied politics and history and cannot recall any great similarity of the American and French revolutions as a major meme of progressive politics.<br /><br />I suspect this is another of Coulter's "libruls are God-less traitors" made up shit, comedy routines.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10004209843701697773noreply@blogger.com