tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post1954138444451405639..comments2024-03-28T09:54:55.115-05:00Comments on Dad29: Madistan Mayor Goes All Bonky-Wonk Over Walker PlanDad29http://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-85172558090685227332011-02-16T21:03:31.569-06:002011-02-16T21:03:31.569-06:00Looks like Andrew K knows that unions are like bug...Looks like Andrew K knows that unions are like buggy whips.TerryNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00935444780104778042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-50535556193974969502011-02-16T11:38:14.302-06:002011-02-16T11:38:14.302-06:00Union efforts LED to public outage, which in turn ...Union efforts LED to public outage, which in turn led politicians to put into place the pieces of legislation you cite. They (unions) were the galvanizing force. They also elected officials who would ensure those protections.<br /><br />And unions will continue to work hard to keep business owners--ah, those benevolent capitalists--from being "rapacious bastards".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-74157736467875899572011-02-16T10:37:11.645-06:002011-02-16T10:37:11.645-06:00Oh, I don't doubt that Rockefeller, Carnegie a...Oh, I don't doubt that Rockefeller, Carnegie and others were rapacious bastards.<br /><br />But you have the correct word: HISTORY.<br /><br />The unions did not pass FLSA. They did not come up with health insurance--that was FDR.<br /><br />The unions did not establish civil service protections. <br /><br />That's all in place now. So "history" is precisely the term.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-29213304632517605692011-02-16T10:24:05.006-06:002011-02-16T10:24:05.006-06:00History was not your best subject, Dad29. Despite...History was not your best subject, Dad29. Despite the bad rap unions get (in some cases, deservedly so), they were instrumental in ensuring competitive wages, a 40 hour work week, and worker's compensation for injuries. You honestly believe the corporate bigwigs like Rockefeller and Carnegie, despite their noteworthy charity work, were going to provide those "benefits" out of the goodness of their hearts without bloodshed by unions and federal intervention?"<br /><br />Hell, no. Bottom line, it was about collusion for profits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-579752226300577412011-02-16T06:17:50.581-06:002011-02-16T06:17:50.581-06:00Maybe.
And maybe.Maybe.<br /><br />And maybe.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-61333088878814911152011-02-15T23:51:12.987-06:002011-02-15T23:51:12.987-06:00This will lead to shitty public employees.
And,...This will lead to shitty public employees. <br /><br />And, it'll kill a lot of good unions, especially if the whole "not legally allowed to force dues collection but legally required to provide representation."Andrew Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16416362476181360949noreply@blogger.com