tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post828327421379518853..comments2024-03-18T18:30:39.000-05:00Comments on Dad29: Fr Richard McBrien vs. the Catechism of the ChurchDad29http://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-23947740181784198932007-04-24T00:56:00.000-05:002007-04-24T00:56:00.000-05:00Can we sue Fr. McBrien S.T.D. (Doctor of Sacred Th...Can we sue Fr. McBrien S.T.D. (Doctor of Sacred Theology) for theological malpractice? <BR/><BR/>Given his track record, I highly doubt that he was misquoted.Alhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07721319432213055605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-85857775793569666252007-04-23T16:39:00.000-05:002007-04-23T16:39:00.000-05:00Thanx! This I'll do.Thanx! This I'll do.Billiamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15489132492383133253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-89762412688898305692007-04-23T16:33:00.000-05:002007-04-23T16:33:00.000-05:00Here's the short course:"1030 All who die in God's...Here's the short course:<BR/><BR/>"1030 All who die in God's grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven. <BR/><BR/>"1031 The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned.606 The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire:607 <BR/><BR/><BR/>"As for certain lesser faults, we must believe that, before the Final Judgment, there is a purifying fire. He who is truth says that whoever utters blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will be pardoned neither in this age nor in the age to come. From this sentence we understand that certain offenses can be forgiven in this age, but certain others in the age to come.608<BR/><BR/>"1032 This teaching is also based on the practice of prayer for the dead, already mentioned in Sacred Scripture: "Therefore [Judas Maccabeus] made atonement for the dead, that they might be delivered from their sin."609 From the beginning the Church has honored the memory of the dead and offered prayers in suffrage for them, above all the Eucharistic sacrifice, so that, thus purified, they may attain the beatific vision of God.610 The Church also commends almsgiving, indulgences, and works of penance undertaken on behalf of the dead: <BR/><BR/><BR/>"Let us help and commemorate them. If Job's sons were purified by their father's sacrifice, why would we doubt that our offerings for the dead bring them some consolation? Let us not hesitate to help those who have died and to offer our prayers for them.611"<BR/><BR/>...which you can find here:<BR/><BR/>http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p123a12.htm#1031<BR/><BR/>Even before Luther, the Church taught about Purgatory--but it was not defined until Florence (1431 AD) and Trent (just after Luther.)<BR/><BR/>It is likely that Luther believed in Purgatory--thus, most Protestants also share that belief.<BR/><BR/>I did not post the footnoted Biblical passages which you can find by going to the link above...<BR/><BR/>On the blogpost, I linked to Zadok's explanation of Limbo. You will find it extremely easy to read and will understand the controversy. It will also help fill in the blanks about Purgatory.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-73873187613666205252007-04-23T16:06:00.000-05:002007-04-23T16:06:00.000-05:00Now there's a question we need to talk about the n...Now there's a question we need to talk about the next time we get together. I've never read anything in the Bible about "Limbo" or, for that matter, Pergatory. A little help here? If the answer is too involved, feel free to email or call sometime. If I'm sleeping the cell will be off.Billiamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15489132492383133253noreply@blogger.com