tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post7752088762905567507..comments2024-03-28T09:54:55.115-05:00Comments on Dad29: The Revolt of the Middle ClassDad29http://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-4721988065284475102014-11-20T10:58:56.763-06:002014-11-20T10:58:56.763-06:00At minimum, Marx pioneered the concept behind &quo...At minimum, Marx pioneered the concept behind "class warfare", using "working class" terminology. There are historians of political thought which specifically state that Marx originated the phrase (or its equivalent) "middle class."<br /><br />Now when you mention nobles v. nobles, you are dead-on. That happens to comport with what I state: the "middle", while perhaps being wealthy, and perhaps having SOME power(s), do not control the country/state.<br /><br />Barons and nobles (etc.) had money, and had some power--like their own small armies. But they were "middle" by virtue of the fact that they did not have control.<br /><br />For example: at this time, GE and Chase are "upper/ruling" class. Credit unions and Joe's Turbine and Transformer Company--while being prosperous--are "middle" because they do not have control over the direction of the country.<br /><br />GE/Chase are NOT going to lead, nor finance, a revolution. But the CU's and Joe's T&T certainly could.<br /><br />Similarly, the Ruling Class which exists largely in D.C., will not lead/finance a revolution.<br /><br />But Governors could, albeit that is not likely. Yet.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-53432311793573628652014-11-20T07:06:06.020-06:002014-11-20T07:06:06.020-06:00"Middle class" is not a Marxist creation..."Middle class" is not a Marxist creation, but an American one that predates Marx by roughly 100 years. Before then, and indeed still in much of the world, it was the "nobles" arguing over which subgroup of them would be lording over the serfs.<br /><br />The French Revolution (18th-century) is the unique exception to the rule that revolutions are formented/financed by either "nobles" out of power or a foreign entity. Even the American Revolution was formented/financed by what passed for nobility here; it's that instead of assuming the spoils of a successful war, they started the Grand Experiment whose final nail will begin to be driven into the coffin tonight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-19496407613682328292014-11-19T22:56:58.505-06:002014-11-19T22:56:58.505-06:00Umnnhhh...
I suppose that we could argue about th...Umnnhhh...<br /><br />I suppose that we could argue about the definition of 'middle class,' and bring up the Marxist origin of the phrase. Or we could argue that I mis-stated the case and should have said 'all revolutions were FINANCED by the middle class.' Or we could argue that the term 'middle class' is not necessarily indicative of the degree of wealth therein, but that such a 'class' was always not-in-power.<br /><br />I'd accept any of those corrections.<br /><br />The American Revolution was not led by the King (uppermost-class), nor his direct appointments (arguably Upper Class). It was led and financed by others--who may have been rich, but were certainly not "in power," and by and large were not coupon-clippers.<br /><br />The French Revolution was led and financed by ---Not King, just as the Russian Revolution was led and financed by Not Czar.<br /><br />Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-44237155474374421062014-11-19T14:00:08.397-06:002014-11-19T14:00:08.397-06:00The historians are wrong because in much of the wo...The historians are wrong because in much of the world today, and all of the world for much of its history, there is/was no such thing as a middle class.<br /><br />One big thing the Beast writer missed is suburbia is tired of paying for the continued failure of the urban core, while Barack Obama, Tom Barrett and their fellow Rats seek to drain the burbs dry to prop up their failed urban core.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com