tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post5477376664242879428..comments2024-03-29T08:47:16.366-05:00Comments on Dad29: The Usual ("Catholic") Suspects and the Madison ProtestsDad29http://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-31805388345490827582011-02-24T14:46:40.807-06:002011-02-24T14:46:40.807-06:00Jesus said "Buy more ammo," right?Jesus said "Buy more ammo," right?Display Namehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15842340986220388709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-79884942608301482322011-02-23T22:56:05.174-06:002011-02-23T22:56:05.174-06:00"You lose. We win. Get over it."
The Fo..."You lose. We win. Get over it."<br /><br />The Founding Fathers did not take that approach. No wonder our country is in trouble due to ideologues such as yourself, Eugene Kane, etc. <br /><br />Perhaps the "winners" ought to be gracious and accepting, rather than combative and sarcastic. I wonder what your priest would say on the matter...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-49112164123150517462011-02-23T14:59:54.971-06:002011-02-23T14:59:54.971-06:00The specifics, or "rights", are left for...<i>The specifics, or "rights", are left for citizens, and taxpayers, to decide</i><br /><br />Actually, the enumerated "rights" are the only ones.<br /><br />As to "deciding," you're right.<br /><br />The voters decided on Conservative government.<br /><br />You lose. We win. Get over it.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-39756827824446864932011-02-23T14:37:46.843-06:002011-02-23T14:37:46.843-06:00"There is no "right" to a pension. ..."There is no "right" to a pension. There's no "right" to unjustly high wages and Mercedes-Benz healthcare packages."<br /><br />I think I read somewhere that we, as Americans, have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The specifics, or "rights", are left for citizens, and taxpayers, to decide.<br /><br /><br />"You lost, get over it". What, Dad29, are we five years old???<br /><br /><br /><br />I do appreciate you dodging the issue. A classic Alinsky moment on your part!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-69530282707679658982011-02-23T05:39:47.863-06:002011-02-23T05:39:47.863-06:00Actually, there is no "right" to a pensi...Actually, there is no "right" to a pension. There's no "right" to unjustly high wages and Mercedes-Benz healthcare packages.<br /><br />You're kinda long on "rights," there.<br /><br />And by the way, the bargaining is with the current majority of voters--Conservatives.<br /><br />You lost. Get over it.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-52815456548324183482011-02-22T19:36:40.677-06:002011-02-22T19:36:40.677-06:00No, no, no, Dad29, you made the claim! It is up t...No, no, no, Dad29, you made the claim! It is up to YOU to provide specific evidence to support it, not me. You've taken people here to task for not offering proof in the past. As you said, YOU made the interpretation, now own up to it. <br /><br />Otherwise, one could surmise you are lying, and we all know how the RCC feels about such behavior! I suppose a good donation on Sunday would do the trick.<br /><br />You seem to be taking a page from one of your boyzzz, Charlie "My evidence? Absolutely nothing" Sykes.<br /><br /><br />CLEARLY, the common good to ensure that workers are treated fairly by business owners and government agencies overrides a concerted effort by said groups to systematically deprive them of specific rights and/or render them impotent. On that, I'M RIGHT.<br /><br />Comfort and luxury? For public employees? Hardy, ha-ha.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-29580538330957910222011-02-22T13:09:26.509-06:002011-02-22T13:09:26.509-06:00Please provide a source, I have not come across th...<i>Please provide a source, I have not come across that particular statement.</i><br /><br />They did NOT say that, but it's the way I interpret the letter.<br /><br />Prove me wrong.<br /><br /><i>the Pope opposes any measures taken to eliminate their existence or gut their ability to exist for the common good</i><br /><br />He's not eliminating them. Your mileage may vary.<br /><br />CLEARLY, the common good overrides the comfort and luxury of public employees. On that, you're right.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-6471736202753802712011-02-22T12:03:02.352-06:002011-02-22T12:03:02.352-06:00You just couldn't bring yourself to say yourse...You just couldn't bring yourself to say yourself that Listecki and Benedict are "wrong", could you? <br /><br />Rather, you wrote "any Catholic can disagree with reason". How clever.<br /><br /><br />Dad29--"I especially agree with the part where he indicated that the unions should take a 50% cut in pay."<br /><br />Please provide a source, I have not come across that particular statement.<br /><br /><br />Dad29--"Fortunately, the opinions of Bishops and Popes on non-dogmatic issues is not binding."<br /><br />No, but these statements represent the long-standing views of the RCC on the status of unions. It is CLEAR that the Pope opposes any measures taken to eliminate their existence or gut their ability to exist for the common good, which Walker seems to be doing.<br /><br />It seems you are trying to "pick and choose" despite what the Pope is definitively saying on the matter to fit your economic perspective. His overall position is CLEAR.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-22826749530010211242011-02-21T19:23:58.313-06:002011-02-21T19:23:58.313-06:00Fortunately, the opinions of Bishops and Popes on ...Fortunately, the opinions of Bishops and Popes on non-dogmatic issues is not binding.<br /><br />Any Catholic can disagree with reason.<br /><br />Some Catholics agree with the application that Listecki wrote. I especially agree with the part where he indicated that the unions should take a 50% cut in pay.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-55225170737365920732011-02-21T18:33:45.745-06:002011-02-21T18:33:45.745-06:00I don't think Listecki and Benedict make any d...I don't think Listecki and Benedict make any distinctions between public sector and private sector unions, Dad29.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-91061081540694277542011-02-21T18:32:34.552-06:002011-02-21T18:32:34.552-06:00Archbishop Listecki supports unions...
www.cath...Archbishop Listecki supports unions... <br /><br />www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=40429<br /><br /><br />so does Pope Benedict.<br /><br />www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0900492.htm<br /><br /><br />Are they the "usual suspects"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-48589365712854723942011-02-21T14:47:34.368-06:002011-02-21T14:47:34.368-06:00Let's go a step further.
Opportunity-cost of ...Let's go a step further.<br /><br />Opportunity-cost of public-union excess wages and benefits adds another $200Bn++/year.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-49366554079602570582011-02-21T14:42:54.817-06:002011-02-21T14:42:54.817-06:00Nope.
Public-unions are a Democrat plan to fund D...Nope.<br /><br />Public-unions are a Democrat plan to fund Democrat re-elections at the expense of working-class taxpayers.<br /><br />Total annual cost to taxpayers exceeds $500Bn in wage and benefit excesses.<br /><br />And cutting off the mule's hay-pile gets exactly the same response from the taxpaying public:<br /><br />BUY MORE AMMO!!!Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12897315.post-10843530240338075332011-02-21T13:41:22.279-06:002011-02-21T13:41:22.279-06:00You're comparing apples and artichokes.
TARP ...You're comparing apples and artichokes.<br /><br />TARP was a GOP plan to clean up behind America's financial elite, to the tune of $800 billion, to ensure they didn't feel the pain from their greedy business practices. Union busting, another GOP plan, will save $300 million by "balancing" a state budget on the backs on $28k/yr janitors and UW cafeteria cooks. <br /><br />But far be it from you to ever miss an opportunity to disparage Christians for following the Golden Rule.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com